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Lundahl LL1663/50mA – 5 kΩ single-ended output transformer for 8 Ω speakers

The Lundahl LL1663/50mA is a single-ended valve output transformer with a fixed nominal match of approximately 5 kΩ to 8 Ω. The 50 mA version provides approximately 35 H of primary inductance.

Its four-section dual-coil construction uses a Lundahl audio C-core and insulation foil between individual copper layers. The documented 8 W at 30 Hz is a magnetic transformer limit rather than a universal amplifier-output rating.

Suitable applications

  • Single-ended stages requiring a primary load around 5 kΩ
  • Correctly designed 2A3, 45, PX4 and related power-triode stages
  • Conservatively operated 300B circuits at approximately 50 mA and a suitable plate voltage
  • Triode-connected EL34, 6V6GT or EL84 stages with a suitable load line
  • Mono and stereo SET amplifiers; stereo requires one transformer per channel
  • 8 Ω loudspeakers where an approximately 5 kΩ primary load is required

Technical data

Product type
Single-ended valve output transformer
Model version
LL1663/50mA
Nominal primary impedance
Approx. 5 kΩ plate load with an 8 Ω loudspeaker
Nominal secondary impedance
8 Ω
Winding ratio
12+12:1 or (4+8)+(4+8):1
Magnetic SE operating point
50 mA according to the model version
Primary inductance
Approx. 35 H
Maximum primary signal voltage
Approx. 200 V RMS at 30 Hz
Magnetic power limit
Approx. 8 W at 30 Hz into an 8 Ω load
DC resistance of each primary half
Approx. 102 Ω
Calculated total primary DC resistance in series
Approx. 204 Ω
Secondary DC resistance
Approx. 0.4 Ω
Maximum DC current through one primary winding
160 mA as a winding limit; not a recommended SE quiescent current
Winding-to-winding dielectric test
4 kV AC
Winding-to-core dielectric test
2 kV AC
Core
Lundahl audio C-core
Winding insulation
Insulation foil between individual copper layers
Dimensions
Approx. 95 × 75 × 50 mm
Mounting pattern
Approx. 35 × 75 mm with four M4 mounting points
Weight
Approx. 1.35 kg
Country of origin
Sweden according to the current BTB listing

Single-ended connection

In the documented SE connection, the two primary halves operate in phase and in series. The manufacturer drawing shows B+ on pin 1, a link from pin 5 to pin 11 and the plate on pin 7. The secondary is connected to pins 13 and 17; the drawing uses the underside view.

The 33% taps in the LL1663 family are shown for push-pull operation. They must not be assumed to provide an identical single-ended ultralinear connection without a separate winding and load analysis.

Other loudspeaker impedances

The LL1663 has no switchable 4, 8 and 16 Ω secondary taps. Connecting a 4 Ω speaker instead of 8 Ω reflects approximately 2.5 kΩ to the primary. A 16 Ω speaker reflects approximately 10 kΩ.

A different speaker impedance is therefore useful only where the resulting primary load is deliberately required by the output-valve load line.

Comparison with the 100 mA version

The 50 mA version provides approximately 35 H, more primary inductance than the approximately 17 H of the 100 mA version. A substantially greater quiescent current requires the air-gap version intended for that current.

Selection and safety notes

A lower plate load tends to increase current and valve stress. A higher plate load requires greater voltage swing and normally reduces maximum output. Plate voltage, quiescent current, dissipation and load line must be verified together.

Lethal plate voltage can be present on the open transformer. Install it with touch protection and ensure that the chassis safely supports its weight.

Questions about selection and use

Which 5 kΩ single-ended output transformer suits a 2A3, 45 or PX4 stage operating at approximately 50 mA?

Lundahl LL1663/50mA provides approximately 5 kΩ with an 8 Ω load, 35 H of primary inductance and a 50 mA magnetic SE operating point. The exact load line must suit the valve's plate voltage and dissipation.

Which Lundahl SE output transformer provides 8 W at 30 Hz and a fixed 8 Ω output?

Lundahl LL1663/50mA is documented for approximately 5 kΩ to 8 Ω, 200 V RMS primary signal at 30 Hz and an 8 W magnetic limit.

Can the LL1663/50mA version operate at a somewhat lower quiescent current?

Yes, the LL1663/50mA version can operate at a lower quiescent current when the load line and signal swing are suitable. The operating point must still provide adequate primary inductance and remain within the valve's plate dissipation.

Is the Lundahl LL1663/50mA suitable for a stereo SET amplifier?

Yes, the Lundahl LL1663/50mA is suitable for a stereo SET amplifier using one transformer per channel. Both channels should use the same valves, load, winding connection and core orientation.

Note: All brand names mentioned, such as Marshall, Fender, etc., are registered trademarks of their respective owners and are used here for descriptive and compatibility purposes only.

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Country of Origin: SE