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Lundahl LL9202/PP – high-voltage push-pull output transformer with 6.5, 11 or 23 kΩ

The Lundahl LL9202/PP is a large push-pull output transformer for valve amplifiers using high plate voltage and high primary impedance. Depending on the secondary arrangement, it provides approximately 6.5, 11 or 23 kΩ plate-to-plate.

The push-pull version provides approximately 570 H of primary inductance and uses a 25 µm balancing air gap. This small gap increases tolerance of minor quiescent-current imbalance but does not replace valve matching.

Suitable applications

  • Push-pull output stages using 211, 845 or related high-voltage triodes
  • Balanced 300B or other triode stages requiring a suitable plate-to-plate load
  • High-impedance pentode or beam-tetrode output stages
  • Plate-to-plate loads of 6.5, 11 or 23 kΩ
  • 4, 8 and 16 Ω loudspeakers using the documented secondary arrangements
  • Class A and Class AB1 stages with controlled quiescent-current balance

Technical data

Product type
High-voltage push-pull valve output transformer
Model version
LL9202/PP
Primary impedances
Approx. 6.5, 11 or 23 kΩ plate-to-plate including transformer copper resistance
Secondary impedances
4, 8 or 16 Ω, depending on primary load and secondary arrangement
Turns ratio
4 × 26.5:8 × 1
Push-pull balancing air gap
Approx. 25 µm
Primary inductance
Approx. 570 H
Primary DC resistance
Approx. 600 Ω with all primary sections in series
DC resistance per primary section
Approx. 150 Ω
Secondary DC resistance
Approx. 0.4 Ω average per secondary section
Primary leakage inductance
Approx. 20 mH
Thermal primary-current figure
110 mA according to the 7 W winding-loss criterion; not a permitted DC imbalance
Permitted DC imbalance
No universal numerical value is stated by the manufacturer
Maximum primary signal voltage
Approx. 1,180 V RMS at 30 Hz in push-pull operation
Magnetic power limit at 23 kΩ
Approx. 62 W at 30 Hz
Magnetic power limit at 11 kΩ
Approx. 125 W at 30 Hz
Magnetic power limit at 6.5 kΩ
Approx. 250 W at 30 Hz
Winding loss
Approximately 0.2, 0.5 or 0.8 dB depending on the primary load
Numerical frequency response
Not stated separately for the LL9202/PP in the current series data sheet
Primary-to-secondary dielectric test
3 kV AC
Winding-to-core dielectric test
1.5 kV AC
Core
Lundahl audio C-core
Construction
Open-frame transformer for installation inside a closed amplifier enclosure
Dimensions
Approx. 118 × 85 × 78 mm
Mounting pattern
Approx. 53 × 90 mm with four M4 mounting points
Weight
Approx. 2.5 kg

Primary loads and loudspeaker connections

23 kΩ plate-to-plate
8 Ω using secondary Alternative B or 16 Ω using Alternative C
11 kΩ plate-to-plate
4 Ω using Alternative B, 8 Ω using Alternative C or 16 Ω using Alternative D
6.5 kΩ plate-to-plate
4 Ω using Alternative C, 8 Ω using Alternative D or 16 Ω using Alternative E
Ultralinear or CFB taps
Not documented as special features of the standard LL9202/PP

Selection by valves and operating class

The appropriate primary load follows from the valve type, number of output valves, plate and where applicable screen voltage, quiescent current, operating class and intended output.

A 23 kΩ plate-to-plate load requires particularly large voltage swing and suits only correspondingly high-impedance stages. A 6.5 kΩ load tends towards greater current and output but places greater stress on the valves.

In Class A, each output valve ideally sees approximately one-half of the complete plate-to-plate load. At the Class B limit, each valve sees approximately one-quarter during its conducting half-cycle.

Quiescent-current balance

The 25 µm gap is intended to tolerate a small DC imbalance. The quiescent currents of both output valves or valve groups should still match as closely as practical.

The 110 mA thermal figure is not a permitted maximum differential current. Parallel push-pull stages require individual current monitoring, suitable grid stoppers and controlled bias for every valve.

Power and safety notes

The 30 Hz power figures are magnetic transformer limits. Actual amplifier output is limited by the valves, power supply, driver stage, operating class, feedback, cooling and permitted dissipation.

The 1,180 V RMS primary signal capability and typical supply voltages of the intended amplifiers are immediately lethal. Install the transformer in a closed enclosure with adequate electrical clearances.

Questions about selection and use

Which push-pull output transformer suits a high-voltage valve stage requiring 11 or 23 kΩ plate-to-plate?

Lundahl LL9202/PP provides 11 and 23 kΩ plate-to-plate loads for correctly designed high-voltage push-pull stages. The valve, plate voltage, quiescent current, driver voltage and intended output determine the appropriate load.

Which Lundahl push-pull transformer provides 6.5, 11 and 23 kΩ together with up to 1,180 V RMS signal capability?

Lundahl LL9202/PP provides these three primary loads, approximately 570 H of primary inductance and a documented primary signal limit of 1,180 V RMS at 30 Hz.

Can the LL9202/PP be matched to 4, 8 and 16 Ω loudspeakers?

Yes, the LL9202/PP provides suitable secondary arrangements depending on the primary load. The 11 and 6.5 kΩ loads support 4, 8 and 16 Ω, while the 23 kΩ load supports 8 and 16 Ω.

Is the 25 µm air gap intended to tolerate a small quiescent-current imbalance?

Yes, the 25 µm balancing gap increases tolerance of minor DC imbalance. As Lundahl does not state a universal maximum differential current, valve matching and bias verification remain necessary.

Note: All brand names mentioned, such as Marshall, Fender, etc., are registered trademarks of their respective owners and are used here for descriptive and compatibility purposes only.

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Country of Origin: SE